Pastor Joseph Almerine Alcorn 2nd
Joseph and his wife Sara Sutton were first cousins.
461. Harry Henry Montroy
Mother said he has two grandfathers (Harry "Edward" Henry Harrison named after William Henry Harrison, President and war hero at Tippecanoe fame.
I know I get the dates backassward, but this is my best; Great Grandfather, Henry Harrison b 23 dec 1841, d 17 sep 1926, Grandfather Harry Henry b 1862 d 1944 and his wife Mary Wolshock Montroy b 1873 d 1945 that's all folks. Next, sending picture of my father on horse Ribbon. This Dad/Ribbon picture should go with my Mothers picture with her pupils at Oak Ridge school. Thats where they met, Dad's father sent Dad up to the school to see if the new teacher,Mom, needen any help setting up the school. Dad's father was president of school board being he had six kids in school. Mom,s future brothers and sisters in laws. Mom taught from 1920 to 1972 and at one time Mom, her son, daugther in law and granddaugther had active Illinois teaching certificates. cuz harry
Harry Montroy says: 03/17/2004
"Next, my wife Joan's ancestor married one of the sisters (Lybarger) so now we are all kinfolk.. OOOyea you did asked for some dates. Joan has one sister, born 1930 in
Chester. Their parents Andrew J. Hagan born November 30,1896 and died
February 10, 1963,. her mother Ida H Lybarger born July 24 1898 and died
March 17, 1987 . Joans sister Lietha or LEE. My father born June 13,1894
and died April 9,1976 . My mother taught school in Randolph County from
1920 to 1972. She used here maiden name as her middle name, Hazel A Montroy
born September 10, 1903 and died December 10,1988. I was the only child
"Demonstrator" not too good of a model."This Dad/Ribbon picture should go with my Mothers picture with her pupils at Oak Ridge school. Thats where they met, Dad's father sent Dad up to the school to see if the new teacher,Mom, needen any help setting up the school. Dad's father was president of school board being he had six kids in school. Mom,s future brothers and sisters in laws. Mom taught from 1920 to 1972 and at one time Mom, her son, daugther in law and granddaugther had active Illinois teaching certificates.
My mother was a person if the sign said Don't Walk,
she did not walk. Taking her teaching exam at 17 she read the part you have
to be 18 and she balked! The county superintendent said, "Set down Hazel
and write-you look 18". (Harry Edward Montroy)
536. Harry Edward Montroy
Tom, Thanks, for the quick return. Our difficulty here is the transfer of Joan's mail box to mine and I do not have too much "Smarts" computer wise and otherwise. I sent a long reply and explantion of my work, then replied to her thinking it went to you. She cleaned up her side and all my funny stuff was thrown out in the wash water.
Anyhow, I am floored at the amount of research you have in your wedsite. It is impossible for me to be brief , so this is some of the stuff that got all wet. We have visited Montreuil. It is an old walled city by the sea with much history and a family due wealth and land became titled. They ran and married with the biggies of the times. Of course, our Montreuil name is only a place of origin or birth.
We were the first Montroys (Montreuil) to visit the town. No Montreuils there on the streets or in the telephone book. The visitor bureau said that they are thirty to forty Montreuil sur Mer, Breche etc. They are towns in ruins and not listed on any map. However, Montreuil sur Mer is there by the ruins of the old walled city which has a fine Hotel on the old grounds. Montreuil sur Breche is North of Paris on the Breche river.
I have an approximate location of the ruins where our Louis Sedilot was married, first time. My work was with the University of Quebec genealogy department. This was only the second party work to credit finds valid. Our work is very similar to resume---you have a license to LIE. Using civil and church for one items realizing one fed the other. The work is tunnel from Louis Sedilot to Harry Edward , 1625 - 1952. My weakest link is our Jean Baptiste to Mary Ann Hore (Harr) and then to Julia Andrews without a death or legal separation.
I can give a lot of background and cheap talk, but I do not have a clue to where they came from or went.. My GGGrandfather was the fifth of the first batch (Hore) and Julia had three or four. At one time there were three Jean Baptistes and five households giving the census horseback rider fits in his count and who belong to which family.
When you have time tell me how you are attached to us poor montroys. I still believe the first ones landed on the river bank a few miles from where I sit? <> Harry
By Harry Edward Montroy
Louis Sedilot dit Montreuil sur Breche has gone from an easy trace to a wild effort to established residence. I took the easy one which was validated by (Ref Tome III historiques Sedilot, Belleau & Sangrenet by Sangrinet) To be reinforced by the Drouin Dictionnaire des familes quebedoises up to 1730. To take the old walled city of MONTREUIL in Picardie Provence by the sea during the 13-14 century we accepted the Sedilot clan travels to a little north of Paris to Montreuil sur Breche, small river town and our Louis Sedilot birth place. This was the movement of family groups from the core city by the sea MONTREUIL to locals as sur Mere, sur Breche etc. This was done over a few hundred years to the 17th century with the birth of Louis Sedilot dit Montreuil sur Breche.
Now the creditability gap has raised it’s head with our genealogist RENE JETTE from L’Universite de Montreal. He has given us a choice by stating Louis Sedilot is either from Gif-sur-Yvette (Palaiseau) which is about 20 km southwest of Paris in the Archbishopry of Paris or Gien , borough Montargis, Bishopry of Auxerre 120 km south of Paris.
Let’s now question our name SEDILOT. Robert Edward Montroy in his research has found an old town of Sedilot or Cedilot or etc. Spellings get mixed according to the whim of the recorder and sounding of the pronunciation. The town was located near the border town of Liege , which is now a border town on the Belgium eastern border with The Netherlands and Germany. The BENDELUX never had fixed borders until the late 1800s and to the south with Alsace 1945? Liege is in a flatland area and always in dispute for the ore foundries was an asset to any country. The University of Illinois gave me this tidbit on our town of Sedilot. They found nothing and suggested a name change to SELESTAT. This town is in the Alsace area southwest of Strasbourg 40 km. This is almost due east of Paris with hill country and mountains. Selestat is noted for the Gothic church of Saint-Georges dates from the 13th century. The church was built from red sandstone and granite found in the area. MONT REUIL could be in a very liberal translation; Mountain Rust!!!!
Paris, Paris our city of lights has it’s share of Montreuils. The southeast section is named Montreuil. An major intersection carries our Montreuil name. Paris has been a place of commerce and government since before Christ. The most famous architects of the 13th century was Pierre de Montreuil (d 1267). His works was Notre Dame, however, the most famous is Sainte-Chapelle. This was in France’s patron saint, Louis IX rule. The stain class windows and narrow columns fifty feet in the air to a vaulted roof and a 245 foot spire gives it the title of the greatest architect masterpiece of the Western World…
Now after all the tourist stuff and guess work with our father who, no , Louis Sedilot what is your point Cousin Harry? I would guess the Sedilots came from the eastern part of France to Paris. They were in fair numbers and some were talented. They (Some) acquired great wealth as the Montreuil with his walled city by the sea. The Sedilot dit Montreuil sur mer, sur Breche are landing areas where small towns started. Wealth was the key; some had it, some did not. The ones who did not have wealth or security came to New France and here we are!
March 25, 2004 e-mail from Joan Montroy
Tom, Your right -- Harry does resemble his dad a lot. Many of the Montroys around here have physical features in common. My mom was a Lybarger; the Lybargers and Montroys have been friends and neighbors for many generations -- all the way back to Kaskaskia days. The first thing my mom said when I brought Harry home to meet my folks was, "Well there's a Montroy." We've laughed about that a lot over the years.Joan Marie Hagan Montroy was born in Chester, Il. Sept. 3, 1933. She is the daughter of Ida Lybarger Hagan and Andrew J. Hagan. Joan married Harry E. Montroy on November 8, 1952. Joan is a 7th generation granddaughter of Jean Baptiste Montreuil who was born Nov. 24, 1749 in Quebec Diocese Montreal Canada. Joan’s great, great grandmother Veronique Montreuil, daughter of Jean Baptiste Montreuil, was born Dec. 17, 1820 at Kaskaskia, Il. Veronique married Daniel Lybarger at Kaskaskia on Mar. 12, 1838. They had a son named Samuel Francis who married Mary Ellen Montroy on Jul. 9, 1873. Mary was the daughter of Francis Montroy and Marie Courier. This is the correct relationship between Joan Marie Hagan and Harry Edward Montroy.
Harry started working on his family history so long ago that we didn’t really know exactly how our relationship developed. On the Sedilot-Montroy Family History link for Descendants of Louis Sedilot when someone sees “Hagan: Joan Marie” they should not see m. 1952. They should see: HAGAN, Joan Marie b. 1933 Randolph County. Also, when someone clicks on that name the biographical sketch which you will find below should come up. This sketch defines the exact lineage as it developed in my family history. All of this has been documented, proven and accepted by the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution. I have a Lybarger (Ludwick) patriot and a Montreuil (Jean Baptiste) patriot, and I am extremely proud to wear the names on my national insignia.
Thank you, Tom. You're a great friend. I have wanted to get the relationship between Harry and me straightened out, and now I think it's done. It's really kind of interesting how our families have intermarried for so many generations.
Tom, Harry started working on his family history so long ago that we didn't really know exactly how our relationship developedTom, I wanted to note that I am a direct descendant from Jean Baptiste Montreuil -- for what ever that might be worth. I mean that I want it noted that I didn't just marry into the family -- I was part of that family before I met Harry. Oh, my Goodness!
My Aunt Ethel, Virginia's mother, Lawrence Montroy's wife, is not in the best of health. Virginia, the oldest of the thirteen, all living, children is the caretaker and has assumed a lot of the worry. Virginia was the only to post your website and it would be a treat to see it brought up to date with her son and new daughter in law.
(Harry Montroy 11/24/09)
558. Richard Bendorf Army Catholic Chaplain
As for Dick, he returned from Afghanistan in January 2008, after spending months there ministering to the troops. Got his wings since he flew so much in Chinooks and various helicopters. We were all very happy when he returned, what an experience for a 64 year old priest. He is finishing his last few years at Fort Benning, GA.
Shortly after her son Thomas was born she went in the hospital with TB. Annette stayed for almost 12 years at Mount Wilson Hospital in Baltimore County where she met and married Hugh Freeman. Hugh owned the Pikesville Cab Company for many years before selling the business and settling down to their country home near Boring, Maryland.
Neither Annette or Tom's grandmother Myrtle would ever tell why Annette had the attitude she did or whatever happen between her and Tom's father. What ever it was they both took it to the grave with them.
Annette and son Tom's relationship was a strange one their entire lives, she never bonding with her son and Tom not knowing how to react to her indifference to him and his family. The strangest thing was the fact she hid her entire life the fact she had a son from friends and co-workers. Annette took her granddaughter Andrea to a dinner in Little Italy when Andrea was a small child and introduced her as a "friend". This hurt Andrea even at her young age, and she never could understand it, neither could I. (TJH)
Annette had a wonderful sense of humor and was very deicated to her Catholic religion, always making sure a certain percentage of her income was donated to the church.
Jim graduated from Westport #225 and attended Baltimore Poly but had to quit school because of the terrible depression years, he went on to work in the same glass factory as his father. Jim spent a few years there as a grinder fitting glass tops on bottles and doing some engraving on the bottles, following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather.
After automation kicked in the industry Jim found himself out of a job and with very little training in any other field. During the Second World War Jim worked at Revere Copper and Brass Company. In the early fifties Jim and his son Tom moved to 2013 Bolton Street, at North Avenue, Jim was working at various jobs at this point in his life struggling to make ends meet. He eventually went to work in the protection department of the Federal Reserve Bank, spending many years until his retirement.
After retirement Jim left Baltimore and settled on the Eastern Shore near Snow Hill, Maryland. He spent a few happy years there and when his health started to fail, he moved back across the Chesapeake Bay bridge to Laurel, Maryland.
James only had one functional lung and after many years of illness because of that died of lung complications.
James's funeral was held at the Fleck Funeral Home in Laurel and his body was cremated at the Baltimore/Washington Crematory.
495. Rollie Addison Harmon Rev.
Rollie Addison Harmon was a graduate of Culver-Stockton college. He was a preacher at various churches in Southern Illinois and St. Louis, including the Disciples of Christ church on Fountain Avenue. In 1946 he came to pastor a church in Tacoma, WA. From there he had a church in Corning, CA for a time before returning to DeSoto, MO to pastor his final congregation near his boyhood home. Rollie died of cancer in 1957.
Ollie was the oldest daughter of William Edward Holt and Malinda Elizabeth Maupin, and grew to womanhood on a farm near Owensville, MO. She met Rollie Addison Harmon at Culver-Stockton College and they soon married.
Rollie and Ollie raised 8 children during the Great Depression, and still seemed to find room for relatives and friends to live in their St. Louis home. Ollie was an outstanding seamstress who specialized in making wedding dresses. Ollie operated a dress shop in Tacoma.